From rkd at zgib.net  Wed Sep  8 06:49:29 2010
From: rkd at zgib.net (Richard Darst)
Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2010 06:49:29 -0400
Subject: [Debian-NYC] More workshops and other events?
Message-ID: <20100908104928.GA29735@boltzmann.zgib.net>

Hi,

It's been a while since our last workshops, and I'd heard people say
they'd like to have them again, so... let's do it.

Our draft idea page is here, which can be used to get some ideas for
restarting:
  http://wiki.debian.org/DebianNYC/Workshops

Would anyone like to offer a topic or a space for a soon-to-be
workshop?

Also, what goals for this series in the future would you like to set?
I can think of a) making it self-sustaining b) making everyone realize
that they have something they can teach c) increasing the diversity of
the free software community.


What other things would you like DebianNYC to do in the future?

- Richard

-- 
| Richard Darst  -  rkd@          -  boltzmann: up 411 days, 5
|            http://rkd.zgib.net  -  pgp 0xBD356740
| "Ye shall know the truth and -- the truth shall make you free"

From lee at rockingtiger.com  Wed Sep  8 12:28:14 2010
From: lee at rockingtiger.com (Lee Azzarello)
Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2010 12:28:14 -0400
Subject: [Debian-NYC] More workshops and other events?
In-Reply-To: <20100908104928.GA29735@boltzmann.zgib.net>
References: <20100908104928.GA29735@boltzmann.zgib.net>
Message-ID: <AANLkTimJSvZ-d8qVvSzeP_eaGJSQ+Md0ZkSZTTmBK48A@mail.gmail.com>

I'm down for more desktop linux workshops. Unfortunately, drop.io
can't host any more events. The team has expanded and we are actually
using all the space now!

-lee

On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 6:49 AM, Richard Darst <rkd at zgib.net> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> It's been a while since our last workshops, and I'd heard people say
> they'd like to have them again, so... let's do it.
>
> Our draft idea page is here, which can be used to get some ideas for
> restarting:
> ?http://wiki.debian.org/DebianNYC/Workshops
>
> Would anyone like to offer a topic or a space for a soon-to-be
> workshop?
>
> Also, what goals for this series in the future would you like to set?
> I can think of a) making it self-sustaining b) making everyone realize
> that they have something they can teach c) increasing the diversity of
> the free software community.
>
>
> What other things would you like DebianNYC to do in the future?
>
> - Richard
>
> --
> | Richard Darst ?- ?rkd@ ? ? ? ? ?- ?boltzmann: up 411 days, 5
> | ? ? ? ? ? ?http://rkd.zgib.net ?- ?pgp 0xBD356740
> | "Ye shall know the truth and -- the truth shall make you free"
> _______________________________________________
> DebianNYC mailing list
> DebianNYC at vireo.org
> http://lists.vireo.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debiannyc
>

From dave at n22t.com  Wed Sep  8 16:42:03 2010
From: dave at n22t.com (David Rocamora)
Date: Wed, 08 Sep 2010 16:42:03 -0400
Subject: [Debian-NYC] More workshops and other events?
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimJSvZ-d8qVvSzeP_eaGJSQ+Md0ZkSZTTmBK48A@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20100908104928.GA29735@boltzmann.zgib.net>
	<AANLkTimJSvZ-d8qVvSzeP_eaGJSQ+Md0ZkSZTTmBK48A@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <87bp88vug4.fsf@n22t.com>


On Wed, 8 Sep 2010 12:28:14 -0400, Lee Azzarello <lee at rockingtiger.com> wrote:
> I'm down for more desktop linux workshops. Unfortunately, drop.io
> can't host any more events. The team has expanded and we are actually
> using all the space now!

Hi,

I'm also for more workshops. Control Group has completed our new
conference space and I'd love to hold another workshop here. If anyone
would like to run a workshop I can provide the space. We'll be able to
seat more people in the new room (and it looks a lot better). 

-Dave

From rkd at zgib.net  Wed Sep  8 21:28:02 2010
From: rkd at zgib.net (Richard Darst)
Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2010 21:28:02 -0400
Subject: [Debian-NYC] Presentation at NYLUG next week
Message-ID: <20100909012802.GD20602@boltzmann.zgib.net>

Hi,

Brian was looking for a speaker for the September NYLUG meeting (one
week from now!) and asked me if I could do something since I had
mentioned it before.

I've said I can, but I'd like to make it a team effort (and hopefully
get some knowledgeable people in the audience to help answer the hard
questions).  (If someone else would like to give the presentation,
feel free!)

So the first question is what topic to do?  Internet access here isn't
easy, so that makes hands-on things harder (and also we have more of a
time limit).

Some random ideas:

- based on Stew's idea of "tearing apart a package" to explain the
  bits and pieces of it would be neat, but would probably be better
  for a workshop.
- Some sort of "advanced tricks of the packaging system" (I am not an
  expert here, so would need advice + searching for stuff)
- talking about the debian community (?) (not sure how interesting
  this would be)
- I could give something about networking in linux based on my recent
  playing around at my work.

Do you all have ideas about what would be fun an useful to give?

Let me know here or IRC and we'll throw it together.

Thanks,

- Richard

-- 
| Richard Darst  -  rkd@          -  boltzmann: up 414 days, 21:32
|            http://rkd.zgib.net  -  pgp 0xBD356740
| "Ye shall know the truth and -- the truth shall make you free"

From hans at at.or.at  Thu Sep  9 18:55:11 2010
From: hans at at.or.at (Hans-Christoph Steiner)
Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2010 18:55:11 -0400
Subject: [Debian-NYC] More workshops and other events?
In-Reply-To: <87bp88vug4.fsf@n22t.com>
References: <20100908104928.GA29735@boltzmann.zgib.net>
	<AANLkTimJSvZ-d8qVvSzeP_eaGJSQ+Md0ZkSZTTmBK48A@mail.gmail.com>
	<87bp88vug4.fsf@n22t.com>
Message-ID: <C56AF8ED-77D5-4B61-AA11-F7A2CECDC933@at.or.at>


On Sep 8, 2010, at 4:42 PM, David Rocamora wrote:

>
> On Wed, 8 Sep 2010 12:28:14 -0400, Lee Azzarello  
> <lee at rockingtiger.com> wrote:
>> I'm down for more desktop linux workshops. Unfortunately, drop.io
>> can't host any more events. The team has expanded and we are actually
>> using all the space now!
>
> Hi,
>
> I'm also for more workshops. Control Group has completed our new
> conference space and I'd love to hold another workshop here. If anyone
> would like to run a workshop I can provide the space. We'll be able to
> seat more people in the new room (and it looks a lot better).


I'm also up for more workshops, and can host at NYC Resistor if we  
need a place.

.hc

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From rkd at zgib.net  Fri Sep 10 20:40:26 2010
From: rkd at zgib.net (Richard Darst)
Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 20:40:26 -0400
Subject: [Debian-NYC] Presentation at NYLUG next week
In-Reply-To: <20100909012802.GD20602@boltzmann.zgib.net>
References: <20100909012802.GD20602@boltzmann.zgib.net>
Message-ID: <20100911004026.GE20602@boltzmann.zgib.net>

On Wed, Sep 08, 2010 at 09:28:02PM -0400, Richard Darst wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Brian was looking for a speaker for the September NYLUG meeting (one
> week from now!) and asked me if I could do something since I had
> mentioned it before.
> 
> I've said I can, but I'd like to make it a team effort (and hopefully
> get some knowledgeable people in the audience to help answer the hard
> questions).  (If someone else would like to give the presentation,
> feel free!)
> 
> So the first question is what topic to do?  Internet access here isn't
> easy, so that makes hands-on things harder (and also we have more of a
> time limit).
> 
> Some random ideas:
> 
> - based on Stew's idea of "tearing apart a package" to explain the
>   bits and pieces of it would be neat, but would probably be better
>   for a workshop.
> - Some sort of "advanced tricks of the packaging system" (I am not an
>   expert here, so would need advice + searching for stuff)

The second of these is what I'm mostly going with.  The outline is
here, anyone feel free to edit it or add things which you like and
think would be good to talk about.  Don't worry about adding things
and making it disorganized, I will organize before I write it all up.
  http://whiteboard.debian.net/nylugpresentation_e19ae6.wb

Right now the main topics are:
- Policy
- Packaging Basics (suites, medium-advanced usage of dpkg and apt)
- Advanced tricks
- Brief look at source packages

I think the outline is too much to talk about right now, but: go ahead
and add your other ideas to it (or mail the list).  I will select what
gets in the final presentation based on what there is...


Who think they can come to the talk (to serve as backup for
questions...)?


Brian/Ron/NYLUG - I'll get a talk description to you ASAP.

Thanks,

- Richard

-- 
| Richard Darst  -  rkd@          -  boltzmann: up 416 days, 21:31
|            http://rkd.zgib.net  -  pgp 0xBD356740
| "Ye shall know the truth and -- the truth shall make you free"

From jays at panix.com  Mon Sep 13 22:27:21 2010
From: jays at panix.com (Jay Sulzberger)
Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2010 22:27:21 -0400
Subject: [Debian-NYC] Wednesday 15 September 2010 NYLUG: Richard Darst on
 The Debian Packaging System
Message-ID: <20100914022721.F38092425C@panix5.panix.com>

<blockquote
  what="official NYLUG announcement"
  and="Tuesday 14 September 2010 NYLUG Hack Workshop meets,
       see below"
  edits="">

 From: NYLUG Announcements <info at nylug.org>
 To: NYLUG Announcements <nylug-announce at nylug.org>
 Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2010 20:30:13 -0400 (EDT)
 Subject: [nylug-announce] NYLUG Presents: 9/15 @ 6:30PM Richard Darst on The Debian Packaging System (Debian, Ubuntu, Knoppix, Fink, Mint, gNewSense)
 Reply-To: Announcements from NYLUG <nylug-announce at nylug.org>

 Wednesday, September 15, 2010
 6:30 PM - 8:00 PM
 IBM
 590 Madison Ave, 12th Floor
 corner of 57th Street

 *** RSVP Closes at 4:30 PM the day of the meeting (sharp!) ***
 Please RSVP for EVERY meeting at this time.
 Register at http://rsvp.nylug.org/
 Check in with photo ID at the lobby for badge.


                                 Richard Darst
                                    - on -
                     The Debian Packaging System (Debian,
                    Ubuntu, Knoppix, Fink, Mint, gNewSense)

 The Debian packaging system is much more than dpkg and apt-get.  There are
 many other features and utilities which can make life easier and more
 enjoyable for the casual user and the sysadmin.  These tools apply not only
 to Debian, but to other distributions using the dpkg/APT packaging system
 such as Ubuntu and Fink.  

 This talk will begin by explaining some nomenclature and concepts behind
 the Debian packaging system, then move to advanced usage of the basic tools
 and finally a summary of other related utilities.  

 More Information:

   * Rolling Your Own Debian Packages: Part One
     http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/336

   * Rolling Your Own Debian Packages: Part Two
     http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/337

   * Basics of Debian Package Management
     http://www.debian.org/doc/FAQ/ch-pkg_basics

   * Debian Policy Manual
     http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/

   * Debian NYC
     http://wiki.debian.org/DebianNYC

 About Richard Darst:
 Richard Darst is an advocate of Free Software, a longtime Debian user, and
 became involved in the Debian project by helping to secure DebConf10 for
 New York City before helping organize and run DebConf10.  Since that
 running start, he has become a contributor to a number of free software
 projects and communities in and outside of the New York area.  He has
 presented at NYLUG in September 2009 and has become a valued volunteer on
 the video crew.  Richard is currently a graduate student in chemical
 physics at Columbia University, and is a member of the informal DebianNYC
 group which meets in various places to hold workshops and socialize.

 Meeting Location:
   Please note that this meeting will be held at IBM, 590 Madison Ave,
   12th floor, corner of 57th Street, and not at Google.  This is
   the building with the IBM logo on the front of the building.

 Map:
   http://nylug.org/mapofibm

 Swag (Give Away):
   During/after the meeting... unusually terrific swag may be given
   away.

 Stammtisch:
   After the meeting ... You may wish to join up with other NYLUGgers
   for drinks and pub food.  This month we'll be over at TGI Friday's
   (677 Lexington and 56th Street, Second floor, Northeast corner),
   but we are also evaluating other options for the future and welcome
   your suggestions.

   http://nylug.org/tgifridays

 Coding Workshops/Hacking Society:
   This is a group of people that wants to learn about and work on coding
   in Python, Smalltalk, C++, and other languages, and hack on code.
   Sometimes they go out to eat afterward.

   Bring something to show off and discuss!

   The workshops meet every other Tuesday, at the NY Public Library,
   Hudson Park Branch.  66 Leroy St. NY NY from 6:00 PM - 8:00 PM

   Next meetings are September 14, and September 28.
   See the calendar at: http://nylug.org/hackcalendar

 Please see our home page at http://www.nylug.org for the HTMLized
 version of this announcement, our archives, and a lot of other good
 stuff.
 ______________________________________________________________________
 Hire expert Linux talent by posting jobs here :: http://jobs.nylug.org
 nylug-announce mailing list nylug-announce at nylug.org
 http://nylug.org/mailman/listinfo/nylug-announce
  
</blockquote>


Distributed poC TINC:

Jay Sulzberger <secretary at lxny.org>
Corresponding Secretary LXNY
LXNY is New York's Free Computing Organization.
http://www.lxny.org

From ron at vnetworx.net  Sat Sep 18 19:05:46 2010
From: ron at vnetworx.net (Ron Guerin)
Date: 18 Sep 2010 19:05:46 -0400
Subject: [Debian-NYC] Free Software Round Table TONIGHT at 10 PM (live,
 streaming and FM radio)
Message-ID: <4C9545CA.2060808@vnetworx.net>

(I hope this is considered local, the host is a Brooklyn Debian enthusiast)

The Free Software Round Table will be broadcasting on WUSB 90.1 FM (SUNY
Stony Brook) and streaming live at
http://stream.wusb.stonybrook.edu:8090/listen.pls this Saturday night at
10 PM EDT.

You can join in on the discussion via IRC on Freenode in channel #fsrt
which can be reached via a web app here:
http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=fsrt

Among the topics to be discussed:

Fedora Pushes systemd to F15:
http://lwn.net/Articles/405100/

How Ubuntu Is Made:
http://www.linuxplanet.com/linuxplanet/reports/7169/1/

Github Has Crazy New Pull Request System Woot:
http://www.adafruit.com/blog/2010/08/31/pull-requests-2-0-github/

Native 64bit Adobe Flash:
http://www.pcworld.com/article/205575/adobe_unleashes_64bit_beta_flash_player_codenamed_square.html

New Research Suggests That Governments May Fake SSL Certificates:
https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2010/03/researchers-reveal-likelihood-governments-fake-ssl
 
Concerns that Google and the CIA are in collusion to track browsing
behavior:
http://rt.com/About_Us/Blogs/namenotfound/2010-08-04.html

Mobile vans driving around with backscatter radars on them:
http://blogs.forbes.com/andygreenberg/2010/08/24/full-body-scan-technology-deployed-in-street-roving-vans/

Apple "traitorware", basically trying to defeat now-legal iPhone
jailbreaking:
http://blogs.computerworld.com/16822/eff_slams_apple_patent_as_traitorware_jobs_is_spying_on_you

Why Intel bought McAfee:
http://arstechnica.com/business/news/2010/08/why-intel-bought-mcafee.ars

Security Researcher Arrested for Refusing to Disclose Anonymous Source
http://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2010/08/security-researcher-arrested-refusing-disclose

Linux: Some Windows Apps Make GRUB 2 Unbootable:
http://linux.slashdot.org/story/10/08/28/2112208/Some-Windows-Apps-Make-GRUB-2-Unbootable


From rkd at zgib.net  Mon Sep 20 09:16:07 2010
From: rkd at zgib.net (Richard Darst)
Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2010 09:16:07 -0400
Subject: [Debian-NYC] Report on NYLUG presentation
Message-ID: <20100920131607.GE32745@boltzmann.zgib.net>

Hi,

As I had mentioned on the list previously, I gave a presentation about
the Debian packaging system.  The presentation went well.  I covered a
lot of things quickly, but there was still time for questions.  The
slides are available here:
  http://rkd.zgib.net/http/talks/advanced-apt.pdf

The presentation served well for letting people know about tools.  I
think we've got at least several more eager workshop attendees from
this.  We should definitely let NYLUG lists know about future
workshops - there were requests for this specifically.  We should try
to have a workshop soon to keep this momentum up.  I even got a couple
of volunteers to (tentatively) give a workshop on Debian clusters
sometime.

A possible follow-up someone may want to work on: make "List of Debian
packaging utilities", "List of Debian Developer utilities", "List of
Debian web services" on wiki.debian.org.  People at the presentation
were asking how to figure out all the things that were available, and
I really like these kind of lists on wikipedia.  (Do such lists exist
somewhere else?)

Finally, a small observation.  At DebConf10, Marga Manterola gave a
talk on "Making Debian rule, again", basically, how to keep Debian's
momentum of being among the best.  
  http://penta.debconf.org/dc10_schedule/events/627.en.html
Among the messages I got out of this walk was "talk about positive
things and tell others about the great things you do".  That's what I
tried to do here, and it definitely got a good reaction.  We shouldn't
insulate ourselves from the rest of the NYC community, we should work
to let them know about the great things in Debian and the things we
do. 

- Richard

-- 
| Richard Darst  -  rkd@          -  boltzmann: up 426 days, 10:09
|            http://rkd.zgib.net  -  pgp 0xBD356740
| "Ye shall know the truth and -- the truth shall make you free"

From stevebeltzer at gmail.com  Mon Sep 20 09:25:21 2010
From: stevebeltzer at gmail.com (steve beltzer)
Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2010 09:25:21 -0400
Subject: [Debian-NYC] Report on NYLUG presentation
In-Reply-To: <20100920131607.GE32745@boltzmann.zgib.net>
References: <20100920131607.GE32745@boltzmann.zgib.net>
Message-ID: <AANLkTimVO=B96NvazAv891UYc+3mDtkMz5hLZZEgzYCV@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Richard and don't forget Debian could get a lot of interest with free
start-up clinics where people bring computers and have Debian installed....

On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 9:16 AM, Richard Darst <rkd at zgib.net> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> As I had mentioned on the list previously, I gave a presentation about
> the Debian packaging system.  The presentation went well.  I covered a
> lot of things quickly, but there was still time for questions.  The
> slides are available here:
>  http://rkd.zgib.net/http/talks/advanced-apt.pdf
>
> The presentation served well for letting people know about tools.  I
> think we've got at least several more eager workshop attendees from
> this.  We should definitely let NYLUG lists know about future
> workshops - there were requests for this specifically.  We should try
> to have a workshop soon to keep this momentum up.  I even got a couple
> of volunteers to (tentatively) give a workshop on Debian clusters
> sometime.
>
> A possible follow-up someone may want to work on: make "List of Debian
> packaging utilities", "List of Debian Developer utilities", "List of
> Debian web services" on wiki.debian.org.  People at the presentation
> were asking how to figure out all the things that were available, and
> I really like these kind of lists on wikipedia.  (Do such lists exist
> somewhere else?)
>
> Finally, a small observation.  At DebConf10, Marga Manterola gave a
> talk on "Making Debian rule, again", basically, how to keep Debian's
> momentum of being among the best.
>  http://penta.debconf.org/dc10_schedule/events/627.en.html
> Among the messages I got out of this walk was "talk about positive
> things and tell others about the great things you do".  That's what I
> tried to do here, and it definitely got a good reaction.  We shouldn't
> insulate ourselves from the rest of the NYC community, we should work
> to let them know about the great things in Debian and the things we
> do.
>
> - Richard
>
> --
> | Richard Darst  -  rkd@          -  boltzmann: up 426 days, 10:09
> |            http://rkd.zgib.net  -  pgp 0xBD356740
> | "Ye shall know the truth and -- the truth shall make you free"
> _______________________________________________
> DebianNYC mailing list
> DebianNYC at vireo.org
> http://lists.vireo.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debiannyc
>
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From hans at at.or.at  Mon Sep 20 11:40:50 2010
From: hans at at.or.at (Hans-Christoph Steiner)
Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2010 11:40:50 -0400
Subject: [Debian-NYC] Report on NYLUG presentation
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimVO=B96NvazAv891UYc+3mDtkMz5hLZZEgzYCV@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20100920131607.GE32745@boltzmann.zgib.net>
	<AANLkTimVO=B96NvazAv891UYc+3mDtkMz5hLZZEgzYCV@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <E0F200C9-7BFE-4419-8FD7-2969CE3371B6@at.or.at>


Yes, we should have a Squeeze release party where people can come and  
install/upgrade their computers.  I can offer to host this at NYC  
Resistor.

.hc

On Sep 20, 2010, at 9:25 AM, steve beltzer wrote:

> Hi Richard and don't forget Debian could get a lot of interest with  
> free start-up clinics where people bring computers and have Debian  
> installed....
>
> On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 9:16 AM, Richard Darst <rkd at zgib.net> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> As I had mentioned on the list previously, I gave a presentation about
> the Debian packaging system.  The presentation went well.  I covered a
> lot of things quickly, but there was still time for questions.  The
> slides are available here:
>  http://rkd.zgib.net/http/talks/advanced-apt.pdf
>
> The presentation served well for letting people know about tools.  I
> think we've got at least several more eager workshop attendees from
> this.  We should definitely let NYLUG lists know about future
> workshops - there were requests for this specifically.  We should try
> to have a workshop soon to keep this momentum up.  I even got a couple
> of volunteers to (tentatively) give a workshop on Debian clusters
> sometime.
>
> A possible follow-up someone may want to work on: make "List of Debian
> packaging utilities", "List of Debian Developer utilities", "List of
> Debian web services" on wiki.debian.org.  People at the presentation
> were asking how to figure out all the things that were available, and
> I really like these kind of lists on wikipedia.  (Do such lists exist
> somewhere else?)
>
> Finally, a small observation.  At DebConf10, Marga Manterola gave a
> talk on "Making Debian rule, again", basically, how to keep Debian's
> momentum of being among the best.
>  http://penta.debconf.org/dc10_schedule/events/627.en.html
> Among the messages I got out of this walk was "talk about positive
> things and tell others about the great things you do".  That's what I
> tried to do here, and it definitely got a good reaction.  We shouldn't
> insulate ourselves from the rest of the NYC community, we should work
> to let them know about the great things in Debian and the things we
> do.
>
> - Richard
>
> --
> | Richard Darst  -  rkd@          -  boltzmann: up 426 days, 10:09
> |            http://rkd.zgib.net  -  pgp 0xBD356740
> | "Ye shall know the truth and -- the truth shall make you free"
> _______________________________________________
> DebianNYC mailing list
> DebianNYC at vireo.org
> http://lists.vireo.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debiannyc
>
> _______________________________________________
> DebianNYC mailing list
> DebianNYC at vireo.org
> http://lists.vireo.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debiannyc


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From rkd at zgib.net  Tue Sep 21 14:41:44 2010
From: rkd at zgib.net (Richard Darst)
Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 14:41:44 -0400
Subject: [Debian-NYC] Report on NYLUG presentation
In-Reply-To: <E0F200C9-7BFE-4419-8FD7-2969CE3371B6@at.or.at>
References: <20100920131607.GE32745@boltzmann.zgib.net>
	<AANLkTimVO=B96NvazAv891UYc+3mDtkMz5hLZZEgzYCV@mail.gmail.com>
	<E0F200C9-7BFE-4419-8FD7-2969CE3371B6@at.or.at>
Message-ID: <20100921184144.GI32745@boltzmann.zgib.net>

On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 11:40:50AM -0400, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
> 
> Yes, we should have a Squeeze release party where people can come
> and install/upgrade their computers.  I can offer to host this at
> NYC Resistor.

This is a great idea!...

Could we make this some sort of regular (every 1-3 months, depending
on enthusiasm) thing?  We get there and provide help and mentoring to
people who want to learn Debian.  We bring food and stuff and
generally have fun, so that it's worth it even if not many people show
up.

Who would come to something like this either as a student or a
mentor/helper?

This would be different from our workshop series, and not intended
to replace Pacific Standard gatherings.

Thoughts?

- Richard

-- 
| Richard Darst  -  rkd@          -  boltzmann: up 427 days, 15:32
|            http://rkd.zgib.net  -  pgp 0xBD356740
| "Ye shall know the truth and -- the truth shall make you free"

From phelanm at gmail.com  Tue Sep 21 14:59:43 2010
From: phelanm at gmail.com (Mark Phelan)
Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 14:59:43 -0400
Subject: [Debian-NYC] Report on NYLUG presentation
In-Reply-To: <20100921184144.GI32745@boltzmann.zgib.net>
References: <20100920131607.GE32745@boltzmann.zgib.net>
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hi. i'd go. i have some experience using this debian sid
based distribution:
 http://www.aptosid.com
i could bring a cd and usb memory stick to start the computer
with this os and then use it to split the partition, install it and
run either with grub. i bet i could get it working with squeeze
as well

... but for the first time i had some problems actually splitting the
partition with gparted and ended up going through all this to get it
working.. it'd be pretty harrowing if it wasn't my computer (and
even then it wasn't so great)

### can't mount anything after splitting ntfs partition

gparted
/dev/sda1 (!) -> <right click> -> information ->
File System: ntfs
Size: 224.61 GiB
...
warning:
ntfsresize v2.0.0 (libntfs 10:0:0)
devie name: /dev/sda1
ntfs volumne versino: 3.1
cluster size: 4096 bytes
current volumne size: 500105212416 bytes (500106 mb)
current device size: 241173402624 bytes (241174 mb)
error: current ntfs volumne size is bigger than the device size!
corrupt partition table or incorrect device partitioning?

unable to read the contents of this file system!
because of this some operations may by unavailable

 ##  following: http://gparted-forum.surf4.info/viewtopic.php?id=14125
mjp at mc3:~$ #new len: 411,321,194 sectors
mjp at mc3:~$ #old len: 756,609,696 sectors
mjp at mc3:~$ #from /sbin/parted: 411312195
mjp at mc3:~$ # from this: http://easycalculation.com/decimal-converter.php
mjp at mc3:~$ #  decimal: 411312194 => hex: 18842042



sudo /sbin/fdisk -l -u /dev/sda

disk /dev/sda: 500.1 gb, 500107862016 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 60801 cylinders, total 976773168 sectors
units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
disk identifier: 0xbf9bbf9b

device    boot    start    end    blocks    id    system
/dev/sda1    *    63    471041864    235520901    7    hpfs/ntfs
/dev/sda2        471041865    952317134    240637635    83    linux
/dev/sda3        952317135    976768064    12225465    82    linux
swap / solaris

sudo /sbin/parted /dev/sda unit s print
model: ata st3500418as (scsi)
disk /dev/sda: 976773168s
sector size (logical/physical): 512b/512b
partition table: msdos

number    start    end    size    type    file ssytem    flags
1    63s    471041864s    471041802s    primary    ntfs    boot
2    471041865s    952317134s    481275270s    primary    ext3    3
952317135s    976768064s    24450930s    primary    linux-swap(new)


sudo dd if=/dev/sda of=sda.mbr bs=512 count=1
1+0 records in
1+0 records out
512 bytes (512 b) copied, 2.5888e-05 s, 19.8 mb/s


sudo dd if=/dev/sda of=sda1.pbr bs=512 count=1 skip=63
1+0 records in
1+0 records out
512 bytes (512 b) copied, 2.486e-05 s, 20.6 mb/s

#from: http://easycalculation.com/decimal-converter.php

471041801 => 1C138709

#change *pbr file:
cp sda1.pbr sda1.pbr.O
vi sda1.pbr
[esc] :%!xxd
...
0000020: 0000 0000 8000 8000 f84b 383a 0000 0000  .........kb:....
...

  change this line to include this value backwards: 1C138709, or,
  from:
  f8 4b 38 3a
  to:
  09 87 13 1c
  or:
  0000020: 0000 0000 8000 8000 0987 131c 0000 0000  .........kb:....

[esc] :%!xxd -r
[esc] :wq!

#load this *pbr file on the computer:
sudo dd if=sda1.pbr of=/dev/sda bs=512 count=1 seek=63
1+0 records in
1+0 records out
512 bytes (512 b) copied, 2.8445e-05 s, 18.0 mb/s

#now it's fine, before rebooting, gparted->/dev/sda1-><right click>->information
filesystem: ntfs
size: 224.61 gib
flags: boot

path: /dev/sda1
status: mounted on /media/disk1part1
label:
uuid: 6a8c19af8c1976b3

first sector: 63
last sector: 471041864
total sectors: 471041802
warning:
unable to read the contents of this file system!
because of this some operations may be unavailable.



On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 2:41 PM, Richard Darst <rkd at zgib.net> wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 11:40:50AM -0400, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
>>
>> Yes, we should have a Squeeze release party where people can come
>> and install/upgrade their computers. ?I can offer to host this at
>> NYC Resistor.
>
> This is a great idea!...
>
> Could we make this some sort of regular (every 1-3 months, depending
> on enthusiasm) thing? ?We get there and provide help and mentoring to
> people who want to learn Debian. ?We bring food and stuff and
> generally have fun, so that it's worth it even if not many people show
> up.
>
> Who would come to something like this either as a student or a
> mentor/helper?
>
> This would be different from our workshop series, and not intended
> to replace Pacific Standard gatherings.
>
> Thoughts?
>
> - Richard
>
> --
> | Richard Darst ?- ?rkd@ ? ? ? ? ?- ?boltzmann: up 427 days, 15:32
> | ? ? ? ? ? ?http://rkd.zgib.net ?- ?pgp 0xBD356740
> | "Ye shall know the truth and -- the truth shall make you free"
> _______________________________________________
> DebianNYC mailing list
> DebianNYC at vireo.org
> http://lists.vireo.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debiannyc
>



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From dave at n22t.com  Tue Sep 21 15:07:09 2010
From: dave at n22t.com (David Rocamora)
Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 15:07:09 -0400
Subject: [Debian-NYC] Report on NYLUG presentation
In-Reply-To: <20100920131607.GE32745@boltzmann.zgib.net>
References: <20100920131607.GE32745@boltzmann.zgib.net>
Message-ID: <87fwx2531e.fsf@n22t.com>

On Mon, 20 Sep 2010 09:16:07 -0400, Richard Darst <rkd at zgib.net> wrote:
> 
> The presentation served well for letting people know about tools.  I
> think we've got at least several more eager workshop attendees from
> this.  We should definitely let NYLUG lists know about future
> workshops - there were requests for this specifically.  We should try
> to have a workshop soon to keep this momentum up.  I even got a couple
> of volunteers to (tentatively) give a workshop on Debian clusters
> sometime.

Is there any interest in doing a workshop about managing large numbers
of computers running Debian?

I think that Debian provides a lot of things that make it easier to deal
with a large number of machines. Maybe we could have a series of quick
talks that discuss some critical components for this like packaging
repositories, Puppet, Monkeysphere, etc. I know that there are many
people on this list that are very knowledgable on those things :) 

It may be a bit harder to do something hands on with this, but I think
that it's definitely something that Debian rules at.

Also, regardless of workshop or presentation topic, CG will be happy to 
provide a meeting space for Debian workshops. If you need a space, I can
help coordinate. 

-Dave

From dkg at fifthhorseman.net  Tue Sep 21 15:09:57 2010
From: dkg at fifthhorseman.net (Daniel Kahn Gillmor)
Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 15:09:57 -0400
Subject: [Debian-NYC] Report on NYLUG presentation
In-Reply-To: <87fwx2531e.fsf@n22t.com>
References: <20100920131607.GE32745@boltzmann.zgib.net>
	<87fwx2531e.fsf@n22t.com>
Message-ID: <4C990305.9000706@fifthhorseman.net>

On 09/21/2010 03:07 PM, David Rocamora wrote:
> Is there any interest in doing a workshop about managing large numbers
> of computers running Debian?

I'd definitely be interested in participating in or attending this, but
i don't have time to organize it right now.

	--dkg

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From rkd at zgib.net  Tue Sep 21 15:36:48 2010
From: rkd at zgib.net (Richard Darst)
Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 15:36:48 -0400
Subject: [Debian-NYC] Future workshops and events
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References: <20100920131607.GE32745@boltzmann.zgib.net>
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On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 03:07:09PM -0400, David Rocamora wrote:
> On Mon, 20 Sep 2010 09:16:07 -0400, Richard Darst <rkd at zgib.net> wrote:
> > 
> > The presentation served well for letting people know about tools.  I
> > think we've got at least several more eager workshop attendees from
> > this.  We should definitely let NYLUG lists know about future
> > workshops - there were requests for this specifically.  We should try
> > to have a workshop soon to keep this momentum up.  I even got a couple
> > of volunteers to (tentatively) give a workshop on Debian clusters
> > sometime.
> 
> Is there any interest in doing a workshop about managing large numbers
> of computers running Debian?

I would be.  Also, after my NYLUG talk, several Cornell (?) grad
students were talking about a cluster they were making for their
group, and they thought they could give a talk on it.

I'm not sure exactly how much overlap there is here, but I wouldn't be
surprised if we could make two separate workshops out of it.  Any thoughts?


> Also, regardless of workshop or presentation topic, CG will be happy to 
> provide a meeting space for Debian workshops. If you need a space, I can
> help coordinate. 

yay!  Here's a random proposal:

- One workshop a month
- One "newbie night"[1] every two months, offset by half a month
- One Pacific Standard (or somewhere) gathering every two months, the
  off-months from newbie nights ?

[1] Can you think of a better name for this?

Do you think that Control Group for workshops (but rotating to other
places people volunteer) and NYC Resistor for Newbie Night (for now,
we can try moving around to get a broader range of people coming).

- Richard

-- 
| Richard Darst  -  rkd@          -  boltzmann: up 427 days, 16:21
|            http://rkd.zgib.net  -  pgp 0xBD356740
| "Ye shall know the truth and -- the truth shall make you free"

From fugit13 at gmail.com  Tue Sep 21 15:38:04 2010
From: fugit13 at gmail.com (Keith O'Brien)
Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 15:38:04 -0400
Subject: [Debian-NYC] Report on NYLUG presentation
In-Reply-To: <4C990305.9000706@fifthhorseman.net>
References: <20100920131607.GE32745@boltzmann.zgib.net>
	<87fwx2531e.fsf@n22t.com> <4C990305.9000706@fifthhorseman.net>
Message-ID: <AANLkTimqbK+Eac-fU8E_Dfu7UMPQrytohEq1r4DCpYR4@mail.gmail.com>

I'd be intersted in attending, helping.



On 9/21/10, Daniel Kahn Gillmor <dkg at fifthhorseman.net> wrote:
> On 09/21/2010 03:07 PM, David Rocamora wrote:
>> Is there any interest in doing a workshop about managing large numbers
>> of computers running Debian?
>
> I'd definitely be interested in participating in or attending this, but
> i don't have time to organize it right now.
>
> 	--dkg
>
>

-- 
Sent from my mobile device

From fugit13 at gmail.com  Tue Sep 21 15:44:23 2010
From: fugit13 at gmail.com (Keith O'Brien)
Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 15:44:23 -0400
Subject: [Debian-NYC] Report on NYLUG presentation
In-Reply-To: <87fwx2531e.fsf@n22t.com>
References: <20100920131607.GE32745@boltzmann.zgib.net>
	<87fwx2531e.fsf@n22t.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTiktzS2-fsb+=wUqFR6gRCJ1P0eujR4RRiT09PqA@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 3:07 PM, David Rocamora <dave at n22t.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 20 Sep 2010 09:16:07 -0400, Richard Darst <rkd at zgib.net> wrote:
>>
>> The presentation served well for letting people know about tools. ?I
>> think we've got at least several more eager workshop attendees from
>> this. ?We should definitely let NYLUG lists know about future
>> workshops - there were requests for this specifically. ?We should try
>> to have a workshop soon to keep this momentum up. ?I even got a couple
>> of volunteers to (tentatively) give a workshop on Debian clusters
>> sometime.
>
> Is there any interest in doing a workshop about managing large numbers
> of computers running Debian?
>
> I think that Debian provides a lot of things that make it easier to deal
> with a large number of machines. Maybe we could have a series of quick
> talks that discuss some critical components for this like packaging
> repositories, Puppet, Monkeysphere, etc. I know that there are many
> people on this list that are very knowledgable on those things :)
>
> It may be a bit harder to do something hands on with this, but I think
> that it's definitely something that Debian rules at.
>
> Also, regardless of workshop or presentation topic, CG will be happy to
> provide a meeting space for Debian workshops. If you need a space, I can
> help coordinate.
>
> -Dave

I would really enjoy this topic and would be really enjoy sharing
different ideas that people are using.
> _______________________________________________
> DebianNYC mailing list
> DebianNYC at vireo.org
> http://lists.vireo.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debiannyc
>

From fugit13 at gmail.com  Tue Sep 21 17:02:02 2010
From: fugit13 at gmail.com (Keith O'Brien)
Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 17:02:02 -0400
Subject: [Debian-NYC] Future workshops and events
In-Reply-To: <20100921193648.GK32745@boltzmann.zgib.net>
References: <20100920131607.GE32745@boltzmann.zgib.net>
	<87fwx2531e.fsf@n22t.com>
	<20100921193648.GK32745@boltzmann.zgib.net>
Message-ID: <AANLkTinVUwQxK0hDpXXAXgionfW59Rh-qwKgEZK51GBq@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 3:36 PM, Richard Darst <rkd at zgib.net> wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 03:07:09PM -0400, David Rocamora wrote:
>> On Mon, 20 Sep 2010 09:16:07 -0400, Richard Darst <rkd at zgib.net> wrote:
>> >
>> > The presentation served well for letting people know about tools. ?I
>> > think we've got at least several more eager workshop attendees from
>> > this. ?We should definitely let NYLUG lists know about future
>> > workshops - there were requests for this specifically. ?We should try
>> > to have a workshop soon to keep this momentum up. ?I even got a couple
>> > of volunteers to (tentatively) give a workshop on Debian clusters
>> > sometime.
>>
>> Is there any interest in doing a workshop about managing large numbers
>> of computers running Debian?
>
> I would be. ?Also, after my NYLUG talk, several Cornell (?) grad
> students were talking about a cluster they were making for their
> group, and they thought they could give a talk on it.
>
> I'm not sure exactly how much overlap there is here, but I wouldn't be
> surprised if we could make two separate workshops out of it. ?Any thoughts?

I think doing 2 or 3 talks on this is a good idea.
>
>
>> Also, regardless of workshop or presentation topic, CG will be happy to
>> provide a meeting space for Debian workshops. If you need a space, I can
>> help coordinate.
>
> yay! ?Here's a random proposal:
>
> - One workshop a month
> - One "newbie night"[1] every two months, offset by half a month
> - One Pacific Standard (or somewhere) gathering every two months, the
> ?off-months from newbie nights ?
>
> [1] Can you think of a better name for this?

I like the planned schedule, as for a  name "novice night" is another
idea. I don't think it is better then "newbie night" but another just
another idea.

>
> Do you think that Control Group for workshops (but rotating to other
> places people volunteer) and NYC Resistor for Newbie Night (for now,
> we can try moving around to get a broader range of people coming).
>
> - Richard
>
> --
> | Richard Darst ?- ?rkd@ ? ? ? ? ?- ?boltzmann: up 427 days, 16:21
> | ? ? ? ? ? ?http://rkd.zgib.net ?- ?pgp 0xBD356740
> | "Ye shall know the truth and -- the truth shall make you free"
> _______________________________________________
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> http://lists.vireo.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debiannyc
>

From stevebeltzer at gmail.com  Tue Sep 21 23:07:44 2010
From: stevebeltzer at gmail.com (steve beltzer)
Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 23:07:44 -0400
Subject: [Debian-NYC] Report on NYLUG presentation
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTiktzS2-fsb+=wUqFR6gRCJ1P0eujR4RRiT09PqA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20100920131607.GE32745@boltzmann.zgib.net>
	<87fwx2531e.fsf@n22t.com>
	<AANLkTiktzS2-fsb+=wUqFR6gRCJ1P0eujR4RRiT09PqA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTinqmQS4YgunRKeAePFtUhQ-6h7NUVRN_yxL1=M9@mail.gmail.com>

I will be happy to attend and bring along other beginners and folk with some
general Linux experience.

Steve


On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 3:44 PM, Keith O'Brien <fugit13 at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 3:07 PM, David Rocamora <dave at n22t.com> wrote:
> > On Mon, 20 Sep 2010 09:16:07 -0400, Richard Darst <rkd at zgib.net> wrote:
> >>
> >> The presentation served well for letting people know about tools.  I
> >> think we've got at least several more eager workshop attendees from
> >> this.  We should definitely let NYLUG lists know about future
> >> workshops - there were requests for this specifically.  We should try
> >> to have a workshop soon to keep this momentum up.  I even got a couple
> >> of volunteers to (tentatively) give a workshop on Debian clusters
> >> sometime.
> >
> > Is there any interest in doing a workshop about managing large numbers
> > of computers running Debian?
> >
> > I think that Debian provides a lot of things that make it easier to deal
> > with a large number of machines. Maybe we could have a series of quick
> > talks that discuss some critical components for this like packaging
> > repositories, Puppet, Monkeysphere, etc. I know that there are many
> > people on this list that are very knowledgable on those things :)
> >
> > It may be a bit harder to do something hands on with this, but I think
> > that it's definitely something that Debian rules at.
> >
> > Also, regardless of workshop or presentation topic, CG will be happy to
> > provide a meeting space for Debian workshops. If you need a space, I can
> > help coordinate.
> >
> > -Dave
>
> I would really enjoy this topic and would be really enjoy sharing
> different ideas that people are using.
> > _______________________________________________
> > DebianNYC mailing list
> > DebianNYC at vireo.org
> > http://lists.vireo.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debiannyc
> >
> _______________________________________________
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> http://lists.vireo.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debiannyc
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From rkd at zgib.net  Wed Sep 29 18:17:07 2010
From: rkd at zgib.net (Richard Darst)
Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2010 18:17:07 -0400
Subject: [Debian-NYC] Novice Nights
Message-ID: <20100929221707.GP3359@boltzmann.zgib.net>

Hi,

Who would like to have the proposed "Novice Nights" sometime?  (The
name is thanks to Keith, I like it better than "Newbie Nights" since
it sounds less condescending to me).

Hans - would you still like to have this at NYC Resistor?  What days
would work for you?  I can do most days except Monday and Wednesday
(and some Fridays).  After you let me know what works for you, I'll
make a poll to find a time.

Other Debian-NYC teachers/mentors - who would come to an event
designed to help beginners with installation and configuring?  (If
you've run Debian for a while, you probably count in this).

We should advertise this beyond just this mailing list, to try to
expand.  I have more brainstorming about how to make this good, but
that can come in a bit.  What are your thoughts and goals for Novice
Night?

- richard

-- 
| Richard Darst  -  rkd@          -  boltzmann: up 435 days, 18:19
|            http://rkd.zgib.net  -  pgp 0xBD356740
| "Ye shall know the truth and -- the truth shall make you free"

From brian.gupta at brandorr.com  Wed Sep 29 18:28:25 2010
From: brian.gupta at brandorr.com (Brian Gupta)
Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2010 18:28:25 -0400
Subject: [Debian-NYC] Novice Nights
In-Reply-To: <20100929221707.GP3359@boltzmann.zgib.net>
References: <20100929221707.GP3359@boltzmann.zgib.net>
Message-ID: <AANLkTikLsV4+Ljbh448=8DJ=29XDFw2FUdHc0gb+iYdo@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 6:17 PM, Richard Darst <rkd at zgib.net> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Who would like to have the proposed "Novice Nights" sometime?  (The
> name is thanks to Keith, I like it better than "Newbie Nights" since
> it sounds less condescending to me).
>
> Hans - would you still like to have this at NYC Resistor?  What days
> would work for you?  I can do most days except Monday and Wednesday
> (and some Fridays).  After you let me know what works for you, I'll
> make a poll to find a time.
>
> Other Debian-NYC teachers/mentors - who would come to an event
> designed to help beginners with installation and configuring?  (If
> you've run Debian for a while, you probably count in this).
>
> We should advertise this beyond just this mailing list, to try to
> expand.  I have more brainstorming about how to make this good, but
> that can come in a bit.  What are your thoughts and goals for Novice
> Night?
>

Not really answering your question.. But we should definitely print out
copies of the awesome Debian Reference card. Also, I can come help, but I am
probably somewhere between beginner and intermediate. (Maybe an advanced
beginner). I can also certainly help get the word out, as I am plugged into
many groups.

- richard
>
> --
> | Richard Darst  -  rkd@          -  boltzmann: up 435 days, 18:19
> |            http://rkd.zgib.net  -  pgp 0xBD356740
> | "Ye shall know the truth and -- the truth shall make you free"
> _______________________________________________
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From dave at n22t.com  Thu Sep 30 09:59:00 2010
From: dave at n22t.com (David Rocamora)
Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2010 09:59:00 -0400
Subject: [Debian-NYC] Novice Nights
In-Reply-To: <20100929221707.GP3359@boltzmann.zgib.net>
References: <20100929221707.GP3359@boltzmann.zgib.net>
Message-ID: <87r5gb72or.fsf@tak.n22t.com>

On Wed, 29 Sep 2010 18:17:07 -0400, Richard Darst <rkd at zgib.net> wrote:
> Other Debian-NYC teachers/mentors - who would come to an event
> designed to help beginners with installation and configuring?  (If
> you've run Debian for a while, you probably count in this).

Hi,

I'd love to participate. Let me know when we'll do this.

Thanks,
Dave

From fugit13 at gmail.com  Thu Sep 30 10:18:11 2010
From: fugit13 at gmail.com (Keith O'Brien)
Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2010 10:18:11 -0400
Subject: [Debian-NYC] Novice Nights
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Count me in...

On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 9:59 AM, David Rocamora <dave at n22t.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 29 Sep 2010 18:17:07 -0400, Richard Darst <rkd at zgib.net> wrote:
>> Other Debian-NYC teachers/mentors - who would come to an event
>> designed to help beginners with installation and configuring? ?(If
>> you've run Debian for a while, you probably count in this).
>
> Hi,
>
> I'd love to participate. Let me know when we'll do this.
>
> Thanks,
> Dave
> _______________________________________________
> DebianNYC mailing list
> DebianNYC at vireo.org
> http://lists.vireo.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debiannyc
>

From joao.n.sobral at gmail.com  Thu Sep 30 10:20:17 2010
From: joao.n.sobral at gmail.com (joao sobral)
Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2010 10:20:17 -0400
Subject: [Debian-NYC] Novice Nights
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I'm also up for it...not sure if i qualify entirely as a 'novice' but count
me in

On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 10:18 AM, Keith O'Brien <fugit13 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Count me in...
>
> On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 9:59 AM, David Rocamora <dave at n22t.com> wrote:
> > On Wed, 29 Sep 2010 18:17:07 -0400, Richard Darst <rkd at zgib.net> wrote:
> >> Other Debian-NYC teachers/mentors - who would come to an event
> >> designed to help beginners with installation and configuring?  (If
> >> you've run Debian for a while, you probably count in this).
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I'd love to participate. Let me know when we'll do this.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Dave
> > _______________________________________________
> > DebianNYC mailing list
> > DebianNYC at vireo.org
> > http://lists.vireo.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debiannyc
> >
> _______________________________________________
> DebianNYC mailing list
> DebianNYC at vireo.org
> http://lists.vireo.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debiannyc
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From stevebeltzer at gmail.com  Thu Sep 30 12:33:24 2010
From: stevebeltzer at gmail.com (steve beltzer)
Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2010 12:33:24 -0400
Subject: [Debian-NYC] Novice Nights
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Count me in too!

Steve

On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 10:20 AM, joao sobral <joao.n.sobral at gmail.com>wrote:

> I'm also up for it...not sure if i qualify entirely as a 'novice' but count
> me in
>
>
> On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 10:18 AM, Keith O'Brien <fugit13 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Count me in...
>>
>> On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 9:59 AM, David Rocamora <dave at n22t.com> wrote:
>> > On Wed, 29 Sep 2010 18:17:07 -0400, Richard Darst <rkd at zgib.net> wrote:
>> >> Other Debian-NYC teachers/mentors - who would come to an event
>> >> designed to help beginners with installation and configuring?  (If
>> >> you've run Debian for a while, you probably count in this).
>> >
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > I'd love to participate. Let me know when we'll do this.
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> > Dave
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > DebianNYC mailing list
>> > DebianNYC at vireo.org
>> > http://lists.vireo.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debiannyc
>> >
>> _______________________________________________
>> DebianNYC mailing list
>> DebianNYC at vireo.org
>> http://lists.vireo.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debiannyc
>>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> DebianNYC mailing list
> DebianNYC at vireo.org
> http://lists.vireo.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debiannyc
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From rkd at zgib.net  Thu Sep 30 12:38:36 2010
From: rkd at zgib.net (Richard Darst)
Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2010 12:38:36 -0400
Subject: [Debian-NYC] October workshop time poll
Message-ID: <20100930163836.GR3359@boltzmann.zgib.net>

Hello,

If you would like to attend an October workshop, please let us know
your available times here:
  http://doodle.com/xx7hymeaw2qx46r6

The workshop topic has not been decided yet.  Please let us know by
email or comments on the poll what you would be interested in.  Some
possible topics are here:
  http://wiki.debian.org/DebianNYC/Workshops

We'll find a speaker based on the topic.  A space will be decided
later, too.  Let us know if you would like to speak, or could provide
space at some time in the future.  Remember, when you speak at these
workshops, it's not just you, it's everyone working together to add
knowledge into the workshops - don't be afraid!.

Thanks,

- Richard

-- 
| Richard Darst  -  rkd@          -  boltzmann: up 436 days, 13:27
|            http://rkd.zgib.net  -  pgp 0xBD356740
| "Ye shall know the truth and -- the truth shall make you free"

From rkd at zgib.net  Thu Sep 30 12:49:26 2010
From: rkd at zgib.net (Richard Darst)
Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2010 12:49:26 -0400
Subject: [Debian-NYC] October workshop time poll
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On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 12:38:36PM -0400, Richard Darst wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> If you would like to attend an October workshop, please let us know
> your available times here:
>   http://doodle.com/xx7hymeaw2qx46r6

I should add, in case it isn't clear to some people the workshop
nights are different from Novice Nights.  Of course people can come to
both!  Later there will be a time selected for novice nights.

- Richard

-- 
| Richard Darst  -  rkd@          -  boltzmann: up 436 days, 13:42
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| "Ye shall know the truth and -- the truth shall make you free"